14” x 22” C&P

Has anyone ever heard of C&P making a platen as big as a 14 x 22? If so, one that is in decent condition would go for around how much?


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C&P made these from 1888 to 1964. Given their size and weight, I’d expect to see a price range of $500 to $2000 - depending on location and condition. Some people might even give them away for scrap value just to be rid of them.

14.5 x 22 C&P Presses were made as follows:
Models - Years
K = Regular Old Series 1888-1914
KS = Regular New Series 1911-1964
XK = Regular Craftsman Unit 1927-1962
HK = Hvy. Duty Craftsman Unit 1931-1940
HK = M-2 Hvy. Duty Craftsman 1941-1950
HHK = Super Hvy. Duty Craftsman Unit 1935-1961
SHK = Model 3 Super Hvy. Duty Unit 1960-1964
C&P also made an Old Series 14x20 from 1888-1914
Probably the Old Series was the most common. I’ve only seen a couple of these monsters in my lifetime and both were used for die-cutting, so anything you may find on the market now is probably wore out in the cams and side arms, and likely stripped of the roller arms and ink disc.

I have one that I restored and use regularly. Let me know if you have any questions.

The Dog House Workshop

the 14x22 is a great machine, very heavy and you don’t see too many around, they are harder to move but you can print larger things on them. there is one near me that is set up for foil stamping, i’ve seen beautiful work the man has done on this machine, you have more ink rollers (i think) of course your rollers will cost you more.

Stanislaus !!
You dont believe that die cutting wears a machine harder than this heavy printing do you ??
I would not want to cause an argument but i run most of my jobs with good dies and impression lever is rarely beyond no2 . in our print days i ran work with it on 4.
Although its not wholly indicitive of the pressure used it is something you can tell after a while by the sound of the gears etc and they way the platen overruns as they finish the impression stroke . the eye of the mechanically minded
is a useful thing .

No argument, Peter, it’s just that most old-time printers didn’t maintain their presses. Many of these machines were used for die-cutting shoe leather, automotive gaskets, many other things we can’t imagine. If I don’t see some oil under the press, I know it’s been neglected. Few printers now would think of makeready under the steel jacket with cigarette papers or tissue. Just crank up the impression and let ‘er rip!

I have seen some pretty chewed cutting plates in my travels , i was writing on the basis that phillistines were not so common ! I have to admit that oil has been absent in many plants i visit and modern anti set off powders are extremely fond of drying oil up !!
I do forget that you guys have some proper OLD kit too .
we take a different approach to gasket die cutting but i do see the point !

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