23” C & P Tabletop Cutter info needed

Hi,
I just bought a nice 23” C&P Table Top cutter. It is in the back of my wife’s minivan. I am trying to find the serial number. I saw somewhere that the # is on the front right part of the bed, near the uprights, but I cannot find one there. I did see a number 1901A on the little arm that holds the blade in the upright position, but i don;t think that is the serial number. I need the serial number, I also need the weight, so I know how many people to bring over to unload it (It was loaded with a forklift). Also, if I have to disassemble, is there a schematic or blown up drawing of this cutter?

Thanks,
Bill

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OK, a little rust remover and voila! There it is BR995 from 1963. I see that it should weight about 340 lbs.
I could still use a schematic, if anyone has one…
Thanks,.
Bill

We barely got it out of the van, it was more of a controlled slo-motion fall than a lift. The problem is that this will not fit thru the doors as it is too wide. The only way to bring it in as-is is to turn it on its side, which would make it tough to carry this much weight at that angle. I think that ideally I could disassemble it, but need to know how to remove those pins that do not screw in. I can put vice grips on them, but don’t want to screw them up. Also, I cannot see how the handle comes off. That handle probably weighs 50lbs, so that would help. Also, if I remove the 4 top bolts to the housing, can the wheel and whole blade assembly then be removed? If I can get this down to about 180 lbs, I think that we can turn it and bring it in.

Thanks,
Bill

Now that its on the ground, i would try to put a press dolly under it and roll it in, i’m not a big fan of taking things apart. Good Luck Dick G.

I agree with Dick — stand it on a side on a dolly and roll it in. You could also consider renting a floor crane from a rental company for picking it up and maneuvering it. If the passage from where the cutter is now to where you want to put it is all level, the floor crane (which is on wheels) should fit through the door with the cutter hanging from it and you can do the entire operation that way. (I’d use heavy nylon straps to pick it up and be careful about pinching breakable cast iron parts in the strap.) Either way, that much weight is risky for even four strong people maneuvering through a doorway carrying it. If you can avoid taking it apart that’s best.

Bob

Thanks for talking sense into me! I have removed a wall that was over the garage door. i have it on 2x4s and will put galvanized pipes under it and roll it into the shop. Getting it up in the air will happen later, but at least in my garage (shop) I do not have to worry about the neighborhood kids lopping their fingers off.

I am still looking for an operation manual. I’m not sure if anyone has one. i know that it is pretty self explanatory, but it would be nice to know where C&P says to oil it and how they say to change the blade.

Again, many thanks!

Bill

I would expect that most of the oiling is on the pieces that move metal to metal. Might be careful not to over oil at a point that risks the oil being carried by the blade to the paper you are cutting.

Changing the blade isn’t very hard usually. Just undo the bolts with the blade DOWN so there is no risk of it falling. Nice to have a socket that will undo the bolts. They are often somewhat inset and can make it harder to do with a crescent wrench.

Clearly when taking the blade off you should be seriously careful.

You also need something to carry the blade in when transporting that will cover the blade edge along with protecting it when it is sharp. Also nice to have two blades so you can be using one while the other one is being sharpened.

Many times a place that sharpens blades has one that will fit lying around. We use J & A grinding here in Newark, DE.

Thanks Ray!
Bill