arab crown folio

Hi SeanF.
Not sure if Arabs were used on the Titanic. I had it my head that they used Croppers on White Star Liners. This may not be true of course. It would need some more research or help from other members.
Are you sure its Crown Folio 15 x 10 because the Foolscap Folio 13 x 9 machines began with 3.The numbering info I have is a little erratic so its possible that yours has a different number.
If so, C/F Arab no 3033 would date from approximately 1902. My records show that no 2854 was made in 1899 then 3350 in 1907. So taking an average no of machines made annually it gives me about 1902. Hope this helps.

Of no practical or constructive help but, tenuosly inter-related, from a book in my little collection on most things L/Press, in this case, THE HOUSE OF HARRILD, 1801-1948, first published 1949??
Re Ocean Going Print Shops, one section deals with, and states *on instructions from,* The Admiralty, (U.K.) Printing presses installed on U.K. Warships, Nelson, Kent & HOOD!! and the printed quote, Ver Batim, *Nearly all the big Canadian Pacific and Cunard and White Star liners, have been similarly equipped by the House of Harrild in the last twenty years* Quote ends and yes? does include “AND” twice. . . The section carries 2 shots of Machines on the *Queen Mary* “Harrild Demy Cylinder” and “Harrild Bremmer, Platen” Apologies if this post be useless. Mick

Hi ,thank you Albion press and Mick on Monotype for your replies , in relation to my platen the bed for the chase is 15x10 so the 1902 period you suggest is probably right . In relation to the Titanic I was on a visit to the museum in Belfast and read some article about the menues been printed on platens on the ship .I thought the ship been built in Belfast and the Arab platen made in Britian it would likely be used for printing.I must follow up on the information you supplied and if I get any further information I will let you know. Again thank you for replies.

Sean, Sir, it is well documented that The Titanic was Built by Harland & Wolff, Belfast, but was actually fitted out in Liverpool, also well documented. It would be reasonable to assume that Printing Press,s would have been sourced within the shortest practical distance depending on availability. Conjecture and NOT fact!!!
But presumably Printers, would have been drawn/sourced from established quarters implying, paid up, trained Union attatched members!!!
As the Typographical Association was in existance from around1848 until becoming the N.G.A.around 1957/59 ish, one would hope and expect, there may be archives in existance with some info about which printers and what machines were supplied for the Titanic??
As with all indentured apprentices, one was obliged to pay Union Subscriptions as a junior affiliate?
Given the challenge it might be Fun, Informative and interesting to see if they the T. A. archives have anything to offer.
Some time ago I had cause to take issue with a friend regarding derogatory remarks regarding *Casey Jones* Railroad engineer or Union Scab?? But in any case a folk hero to me and many others, in song.
Within 48 hours of the altercation I received Chapter,Verse and paragraph of the real facts from the Archives of The T.G.W.U. (Transport and General Workers Union) U.K. equivalent of The Teamsters. And an apology from my third party. Strong union member.!!
Perhaps our T.A. archivists can be prompted???
I would be happy to give it a shot. Mick