Karl Krause - production date?

Hello everyone,
we recently bought this German guillotine - KARL KRAUSE LEIPZIG with the serial number 31619 on the front.

Here is our question for you: does anyone know what year this model was produced? We suppose 80s or 90s of the 19th century…

The knife is 92 cm long, the largest paper may be ca. 60 cm wide and the long table is supported on the back with additional element (to be leveled).

We are currently cleaning it and preparing for painting (only the awfully gray parts). If you are interested with the process we’ve put some images at our facebook album here:
http://on.fb.me/1qKNAI3

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Hi, Adalbert, We have a K.Krause with no s/n. But based on the fact Krause numbers are continuous across all platforms your machine must be 1880-1890, That’s my guess. I have yet to find a K.Krause like ours anywhere.

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Hey, Nick, thank you very much. We admire what you are doing with the old machines in your workshop, it’s marvelous! We’ve found your website before, as we were looking for information, how to unmount the guillotine. And this KRAUSE you’ve renovated looks beautyful, it’s kind of example what we would like to achieve with our KARL, only in our home conditions with a drill-grinder, wire brush and airbrush ;)

Would you like to tell us how to protect the shiny elements against rust? After polishing should we use some wax or something else?

Hi Adalbert, Thanks for the nice comments. Great to meet others who like to do what we do. So far with rust its been an issue. Various machines react differently. This is assumed because of iron content. Some have started to rust almost immediately. I suggest after polishing, use alcohol to clean parts then spray with a clear coat of lacquer. These can be found in any paint store in small spray cans. Try it and see if it works for you.

Thanks for your advice. It starts immadietly with ours: as i left one partly cleaned element for a night (i have room for that outside only) it was covered with this tiny red spots the next morning. Now we hide cleaned parts at home, but still the one which were cleaned first are not so shiny any more…
I will try with the lacquer, as you wrote, thank you again:)

I have the same model, just a little bit younger.
http://briarpress.org/38024
I have yet to clean and recover it.

Gummistiefel, we should be thankful for your post, as we’ve red the tips about unmounting it:) Now you may see our process, step by step, here: http://on.fb.me/1qKNAI3

If it helps you, i will be glad to send more pictures via email…

Viel Gl├╝ck damit!

Hello Adalbert,
mine is still waiting to be cleaned and put back together, but I will leave his nice black coating, I will just remove the rust.

No i serdeczne pozdrowienia z niemiec do polski!

Would guess 1910 or 20 because of the straight lines on the fly wheel

Thank’s Phase4, but the fly wheel was dismantled for the transportation and it has curved lines (on the photo while being cleaned).

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We found an engraving of the same machine by a bookbinder, but don’t know from what publication it comes from…

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