Inking Plate/Trucks/Rollers

Hi there.
Recently purchased a C&P. I am finally getting around to turning it over and putting the rollers on to ink up soon.

When putting the rollers on, I did notice that one set of the trucks werent the same. I only put 2 of the 3 on the press. Also, when i ran the press to get a couple turns i noticed that the trucks seem to move, not off the rails completely but to the side a little. Im begining to think they arent the right ones. I have attached a couple of photos for reference.

Also, was wondering if anyone could recommend an ink plate cleaner to remove those lines. Im thinking i may need to have it machined to completely remove. Anyone know what that is?

Thanks again for your help in advance.


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From the shots and at a guess, the marks come from the Machine (with some rollers left on) being left /unloved for a long time, possibly prove, by rotating the centre section, the marks will probably align at some point in the cycle.?

Cleaning/Refurbishing the Ink Disc,s (plural)!! We have found here U.K. the most foolproof method to be, via the use a Reciprocating buffer, (not orbital)
If ordinary decontaminates have not achieved a good mirror finish on both parts, place a straight edge across the both sections and check for high/proud on the centre section usually only caused by build up of C***, under the stub of the centre section, easily rectified.!

Once overall common height is established, and with the reciprocating Buffer, Liquid metal Polish and progressively finer Grit pads , BUFF the parts back to mirror finish.
***Trying to achieve the above result, just with Hand, Brain, and Fingers does not work, because the agents that are used (by default) tend to follow the Highs & The lows, the buffer brings everything down to the lowest common denominator.

Learned this along time ago, trying to Block Down *Orange Peel Finish* by hand, after crudely sprayed Motor Cycle parts, reciprocating Buffer earned its keep within Weeks.

Still in use, re-furbishing, (Mainly) English Adana Ink Disks. Sometimes cheat even further, i.e. mount the Adana Ink Disc,s in the Lathe, rotate at very low speed 10 R.P.M. but still buff with Metal Polish and Fine grit Pad.!

Rollers/Trucks, looks suspiciously like the lower one pictured is, to use the appropriate expression a *Wrong
Font* possibly check the relevant sizes on all 3, /// overall length of Shafts/Stocks, /// diameter(s) of all 3 that locate in the hooks, /// diameter(s) of the part(s) of the shaft(s) that accomodate the trucks, /// are there the same locating lugs on all 3 rollers, /// the lower one pictured appears to be of less overall working length than the top one, /// side ways movement clue,! /// is the diameter of all 3 roller(s) compound, the same.? Possible, Wrong Font clues.?

****Conjecture only, from afar,? with That M/c. with a 3rd. roller as a bolt on!! Is the lower roller pictured the *wrong font* sourced in error previously, or just inadvertently
fitted for the proving trials.???

Good Luck. Mick.

looks like wrong trucks, what size press do you have. I can look up original size truck. Time to update to some Delrin trucks to.

You don’t need the third roller on unless you have a large forme to print or large solid area.

For most of your jobs you probably only need two.

For a very light job such as a single line then just use one roller under the roller hooks.

If all of the marked areas on the disk ink up then don’t worry about it, it is a working press not a piece of art work.

@toddspresstime its and 8x12 C&P. are the Delrin trucks better? Can you also suggest where i can purchase?

I would advise against running a C&P with only one roller, especially in the upper or double saddle position. If you’ve ever had a roller come flying off the press at you as happened to me one time, then err on the side of caution, not false economy. I have always run all three rollers on my 10x15 C&P in the 60 years I have operated the press, even for one line of type. There is better, more consistent inking with less ink required, thus better results.

The truck problem in Keli’s situation calls for a set of new trucks, which we sell, as a starter. The roller cores may have the crimps in the wrong location, but it is normal that the trucks will move back and forth on the core a slight amount as the press operates.