C&P Press, trying to identify size

Can someone help me with determining the size of this C&P that is currently for sale with Boggs Equipment? I have tried to get information from them, but it seems they don’t know the size, they think maybe 10x15 but can’t verify. The serial number they give, and the number visible in one of the photos do not seem to match with the list of C&P serial numbers that I found a link to here on Briar.


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The serial number is hidden under the chase, as it is stamped in the corner of the bed.

The size is determined by the inside dimensions of the chase. If you could get them to measure that, you’d know for certain.

If you didn’t have the chase to measure, but had an old set of rollers, you could measure the length of the rubber surface and subtract 1.5-2” to get the width of the press.

John Henry
Cedar Creek Press

Printers Devil,
I looks like it may be a 10 x 15. As John Henry says the serial number is in the top left corner behind the chase.

Although the press looks like it is in very good shape, the description, “die cutting and letterpress equipment” scares me a little. If this was the only clamshell press left in a commercial shop it may have been used for die cutting exclusively indicating that it may have seen some fairly heavy use. The other thing that is a red flag is seeing scoring rule in the chase along with the rollers on the press, indicating that they did not take care to remove the rollers when scoring or diecutting. I would want to see the press before I purchased it. Unless of course is a really good price and easy for you to load and unload.
good luck,
Steve V.

Thank you both for your input. I have been looking for a nice 10x15 closer to where I live (northern CA) but haven’t found anything so was curious about this one, if it did turn out to be a 10x15. But since I can’t check it out personally and it would have to be shipped, it’s not an ideal situation.

Based upon photo #0252 that shows both Redington counter and ink disc, and knowing the width of the counter (3.18in.) a simple paper ruler (mark the counter width, then march it across the disc) shows the press to be an 8x12. (8x12 has a 13.75in.disc/ 10x15 has a 17.25 disc.) IMHO

thank you that is very helpful information.

You might want to contact the International Museum of Printing in Carson - it’s a lot closer than the east coast. If they don’t have one available as surplus, they may know where to look for one.


Also, CookKettle Press has one for sale - they’re just over the border in BC, Canada:


Thank you Bill I have been in touch with the Museum in the recent past, and just discovered CookKettle Press thanks to another here on Briar.

That sure looks like a 10x15 to me, but I’ve only had mine for 65 years. What is more interesting to me is that the instruction label glued to the delivery table before the press first delivered is still on the press. This indicates to me a press that has had low usage as opposed to one that worked 2 shifts a day in a commercial plant over many years. Here is what the labels looked like https://www.flickr.com/photos/53177163@N00/3008271735/in/dateposted/ and this was on my press when I got it in San Francisco.

I agree, looks like a 10x15 to me. If your still looking I have a 10x and a 12x for sale The 10x is a new series and the 12x is a “N ” series. If you want pictures call me @ 559 730-1596 and I will text message them to you. Located in CA

On the pictures that show the chase you can see the two grab handles built into the chase. Did they make that type of chase for the 8x12 presses?…Or were they mainly available for the larger and heavier forms of 10x15 and 12x18? I’ve only seen them for the larger sizes.

This is definitely a 10x15 as you can see the part number “1037” cast into the disc lever. If it were an 8x12 that would be marked “837”.


And from the photos, this appears to be a good looking press and worth going after. The ultimate cost of a press, including shipping, is relative to the need, and how much effort is spent in finding a suitable press. But above all, always buy insurance for the move if moved by commercial carrier. The high cost of everything today is often a defining consideration. But over the years, I’ve made several long distance moves, including one from New Hampshire to Colorado, and all were worth the time and expense. Boggs has been dealing with cast iron for many years and knows they should do a better job giving out press information.

Thanks Bradley and Fritz for your comments. Sounds like this is in fact a 10x15. I am apprehensive about shipping but would consider it as I have read positive reviews here and elsewhere about Boggs.