I just bought this press. I thought it is a C&P 8x12 Old Style but the serial number is different than what is listed on the Briar Press website. It seems to be only 4 numbers and it starts with a 57. The press lookup sheet only goes to 5527. my press has some additional characters on it. I have included some pictures. Also, this machine appears to have a clutch of some sorts with a activation handle. This handle has been broken off and pieced back on with a strap and screws. If it is an old style, I know that I will be able to put a treadle on it and forgo the motor that is running it now. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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It looks like an Old Style, but to know if you can treadle the press you’ll want to look at the shaft of the press and make sure it is a crankshaft instead of a straight shaft. If it’s a crank you should be able to buy a new treadle from Hern Ironworks and fit it to your machine.
Not sure about the serial number there. At the end of the Old Style days Chandler and Price was also using New Series parts to complete machines. There are some transitional presses out there, but this still wouldn’t explain your serial number.
I think that is a Horton clutch fitted on the drive side of the press. The clutch got rid of the need for a belt shifter and a live and idler pulley arrangement on presses run from lineshafts. This also allows one to start and stop the press without turning off the motor, though not sure if the brake (if present) is arranged to trip off the clutch if the brake is used.
Thanks for info mikefrommontana. I have seen plenty of o.s. chandler & prices but never anything like this. I don’t know how common or rare they were.
No treadle for this press. I saw the curved spokes and assumed that I could put a treadle on it. It looks like it has been converted into a straight shaft machine and (as mikefrommontana informed me) outfitted with a horton clutch. No brake though. I will need a flat belt. Any ideas where I might find one. There is also a repair that was done on the press where the clutch engagement arm ties in. You can see it in the earlier pics. I think this can be easily wielded back together. Any thoughts.
Thanks for the info. I will continue looking for some answers about this late old style model.
Keep in mind that the serial numbers on the lists generally just list the first s/n for each year, not the last — so 5527 was probably the first OS 8x12 of 1911, which was certainly not the last, as they were building something like 10,000 8x12’s a year before that.
my 10x15 has the same clutch, when i first got the press it had sat for years, i couldn’t slow it down, a friend came over to see the new press, he asked to see it run, when i turned it on he couldn’t believe how fast it ran, i told him it was running around 2500 an hour. He said you are very good to hand feed 2500 an hour, i told him i could only feed around 1200 an hour that i can’t figure out how to slow the darn press down. Having had the press for 10 or so years i’m still having some problems with that clutch, it will speed up on its own, if i move the lever down just a hair then the press will run so slow that it will stop, some day i’ll figure it out.