Pricing a NCR job

Aaron
check your pricing NCR is usually sold on a set basis
so probably 85 for 1000 sets if 5 part then (5000 sheets) of 8.5 x 11 so you only need 250 sets. the paper cost for the job is more like $20 if they will sell that amount.
good luck

Aaron here is a link 500 sets 5 part NCR less than $50.00

http://www.thepapermillstore.com/ncr-paper-brand-superior-multi-colored-...

Aaron here is a link 500 sets 5 part NCR less than $50.00

http://www.thepapermillstore.com/ncr-paper-brand-superior-multi-colored-...

Be careful pricing paper. That’s 1 ream of 500 SHEETS for 43.97. That equals 100 sets.

Actually 200 sets for Aaron’s job, but he’d need to cut it and I’m not sure how you would cut assembled NCR sets — without marking them. Slipsheeting? Heavy-duty chipboard? If he could cut them they could be printed work and whirl and then cut — 3 reams would be enough, so about $130 for stock.

Bob

Another catchall with NCR, especially if running in more than one pass, is to make sure you get it in the right sequence. If running in a single pass, you would want what’s described at “Reverse” sequence stock—wherein you would print the bottom sheet of the set first.
If you are running the stock in two passes, then you would want “Forward” sequence stock, wherein the white sheet would be on top at the start, on the bottom after the first run, and at the top at the end of the second run. Sometimes you have to run the sets through the press without printing just the reverse the sequence.
Myself, I’d cut the stock to size and run it one up. Cutting NCR requires a sharp blade and a clamping pad. NCR is usually delivered with chipboard wrappers and I would cut with those in place, with a couple additional sheets of chipboard at the top of the stack.

Is the linotype readily available to you? If not let me know, can ship anywhere. Bob

Is it absolutely necessary to be letterpress? You could broker the entire job for less than your material cost and make a nice profit at $400.

Since Aaron has an working Intertype in house, and it’d be money in his pocket, I’d guess he’ll be doing the composition in house. I would if I landed a “black” job like that. Just need some counter space and the right NCR padding compound. In the good old days, this would be a gravy job.

Looks like the paper would be around $120 (plus freight) if purchased through the source linked above. So you should be able to provide a more competitive quote. NCR forms aren’t cheap!

I checked with the one of the local commercial paper suppliers here in Houston, Texas, the price would be $120 for 500 sets of 8.5 x11.

But, seeing that you can’t print 2500 perfect, I would need another 200 sheets.

So I think to run 500 set of 5.5x8.5 the cost of paper would be $65 to $70.

I think general printing customs don’t hold you to exact quantity (1 or 2 percent under may be acceptable) more if pro-rating the billing. UNLESS the job is numbered, then yeah, you’ll been the extra sets. Check with the customer on this, generally they might accept a shortfall, if it saves them $25 on the job.

If you can get NCR to feed without doubles, it’s usually pretty trouble free stock. It’s probably easier to feed on a Vertical or Windmill than on a offset press.

Back in the 70s I learned good brand of NCR paper runs with no problems. I once purchased an off brand and i wasted 1/4 of the paper.

I asked for help on pricing, because it has been 30 years since I priced NCR.

Just wanted to make sure I reading the price book correctly. Thank everyone with your help.